Bluebeard's Castle

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Kyle Albertson

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Bass-Baritone

Jennifer Johnson Cano

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Mezzo-Soprano

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Brooke Tolley

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Steven White

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Ansley Melton

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Daniel C. Summerlin III

Robert Nordt Sr.

Paula Prince

Immediate Past President

William "Bill" Krause

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Sally Adams Barbara von Claparede-Crola Rupert "Rupe" Cutler Isabel Ditzel Frank Giannini James "Jim" Kern Krista Vannoy

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Credits

Lighting equipment from PRG Lighting, sound equipment from Sound Associates, rehearsed at The Public Theater’s Rehearsal Studios. Developed as part of Irons in the Fire at Fault Line Theatre in New York City.

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*Appearing through an Agreement between this theatre and Actors’ Equity Association, the Union of Professional Actors and Stage Managers in the United States.

“Actors’ Equity Association (“Equity”), founded in 1913, is the U.S. labor union that represents more than 51,000 actors and stage managers, Equity fosters the art of live theatre as an essential component of society and advances the careers of its members by negotiating wages, improving working conditions and providing a wide range of benefits, including health and pension plans. Actors’ Equity is a member of the AFL-CIO and is affiliated with FIA, an International organization of performing arts unions. www.actorsequity.org

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ATPAM, the Association of Theatrical Press Agents & Managers (IATSE Local 18032), represents the Press Agents, Company Managers, and Theatre Managers employed on this production.

21-22 Season Welcome Letter

Dear Friends of Opera Roanoke,

Welcome to Opera Roanoke’s 46th Season of live performances in the Roanoke Valley. If this past year has taught us anything, it is how vital this art form and its patrons are to our community. We have missed you terribly, but we are ready to welcome you back to the theatre with a line-up of programs that highlight the best of all this art form has to offer – from traditional to contemporary – performances that will expand your mind and fulfill your soul.

At the core of everything we do at Opera Roanoke, is the belief in the power of the human voice to entertain, teach, and connect. With each of our three mainstage offerings this season, there is an opportunity to witness our mission in action. We invite you to explore a world where the ordinary becomes extraordinary through the power of music and singing.

We are excited to share our 2021-22 season with you and we look forward to seeing you {back} at the Opera!

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Sincerely,

Brooke Tolley
General Director
Steven White
Artistic Director
Daniel C. Summerlin, III
President, Board of Trustees

Program Notes

Bluebeard’s Castle

American premiere of Eberhard Kloke’s version for chamber orchestra

Béla Bartók (1881–1945) was a Hungarian composer and an important pioneer in the field of ethnomusicology. During the first decades of his life, he was better known for his work in collecting and analyzing folk music than for his own compositions. He fled fascism to settle in New York City in 1940. At the time of his death from leukemia, his stature as a composer was beginning to grow internationally.

Bartók’s only opera is an intense psychological journey, a powerful drama of inner emotion, and a tour de force for its two singers and orchestra. Loosely based on Charles Perrault’s late–17th-century fairy tale, it tells the grotesque story of a rich and powerful man, suspected of having murdered several wives, who brings a new bride to his castle. In Bartók’s version, the bride, Judith, prods Bluebeard to open seven doors, each of which reveals an aspect of Bluebeard’s life, material possessions, and, by extension, his soul. With the opening of the final door, Judith is engulfed in his dark subconscious.

By the time the opera was written, the Perrault tale had become a metaphor for contemporary psychological questions: How well can two people know each other? How much should they attempt to find out? While such an approach, almost completely without conventional “action,” could easily have resulted in an overly didactic treatment, Bartók’s music makes the opera a thrilling journey. The score resides on, yet not quite beyond, the jagged edges of tonality. Like the subconscious and the dream world it depicts, it sounds familiar enough so as not to be experienced as abstract, yet foreign and disturbing enough to create a feeling of unease. It is a unique achievement in opera and a great challenge to the performers and production team.

Musicologists delight in analyzing the score of Bluebeard’s Castle, but the opera is remarkable for its ability to make a direct and powerful impression on anyone. The music is closely linked to the rhythms of the text, and yet gives it an acoustic power that transcends the strictly syntactic meaning. It speaks to the emotions as well as to the intellect.

The opera opens with a spoken prologue, in which the audience is invited to question whether what they’re about to see is really happening or takes place in their imagination. Bartók builds each of the scenes, represented by each of the seven doors of Bluebeard’s castle, around its own pitch center: beginning in F-sharp, moving to a bright C (expressed in a glorious outpouring of melody) in the fifth scene, and returning to the subdued F-sharp at the end. The whole drama is contained within this sequence: loneliness with a glimpse of the lost opportunity for love and light.

Much of the title character’s vocal line is declamatory and indeed without much color or range. Its power lies in its dramatic delivery. Conversely, Judith’s music covers a wider range. The underlying intention is clear: She is attempting to break away from his stifling presence. The music of Bluebeard’s Castle makes a universal tale of human relationships from a symbolist psychological study.

Bartók began the project, his sole opera, in 1911, working from a libretto by Béla Balázs. Adapting a particular violent story from Perrault’s collection—now often omitted from modern editions—Balázs, a leading intellectual in Budapest circles, had created a new, psychological rendering of the tale. He removed the happy conclusion, in which Judith is saved from the castle by her brothers and, employing Hungarian folk idiom, turned his focus to the strange relationship between Judith and her husband. “My ballad is the ballad of the inner life,” the poet explained. “Bluebeard’s castle is not a real castle of stone. The castle is his soul. It is lonely, dark and secretive: the castle of closed doors.”

In his score, Bartók likewise presented an inner life, not only pumping musical blood into the veins of the two characters but also presenting a précis of his maturation as a composer. His musical education had begun through his parents’ performances at home, as well as by his own exploration of works by Brahms and Schumann. But in travelling from what is now the borderland between Hungary and Romania to the former’s newly established capital of Budapest, Bartók discovered much richer musical landscapes. Attending the city’s Academy, he not only encountered the music of Richard Strauss but also that of Debussy, thanks to his meeting with the man who was to be his colleague and companion, Zoltán Kodály, in 1905. Such diverse musical seams fused in the works that Bartók began both to create and to notate. He had announced in 1904 that he would “collect the finest Hungarian folk- songs and elevate them, adding the best possible piano accompaniments, to the level of art song.” His encounter with Kodály made that ambition a reality. Working in collaboration, they were prolific in their collecting activities and the music they discovered came to infuse their work.

But what is so remarkable about Bartók’s output is not its ability to reflect diverse influences but to sublimate the strands into one, as is clear in Bluebeard’s Castle. Progress with the score was slow. With it, Bartók had hoped to win the Ferenc Erkel Prize in 1911, but he failed both in this and in a 1912 competition run by music publishers Rózsavölgyi, with one judge deeming the work impossible to stage and another thinking it far too dark. Bartók was devastated, but when, after World War I, the opera was finally mounted in Budapest, he experienced at least a partial refutation of those judgements.

As musical drama, Bartók’s only opera offers a decidedly bleak resolution to the oppositions at its core: Judith vs. Bluebeard, light vs. dark, sanity vs. madness, tonality vs. atonality. These tensions are immediately apparent as the ambiguous spoken prologue trails into silence and the score begins, low down in the orchestra’s register. Its music revolves around a penumbrous F-sharp chord, spelled out in folksy, pentatonic terms. Quickly, the woodwinds cut across this dark but sonorous sound, centering instead on a triad of C major. The clash between these elements spells out the interval of a tritone, the middle point in the chromatic scale or, rather, the polar opposite of the very first note we heard.

Such a dichotomy is seemingly resolved at the blinding opening of the fifth of the seven doors in Bluebeard’s castle. Accompanied by full orchestra (including an organ), Judith screams in amazement at the vastness of the kingdom she can see beyond, the music resounding with the luminescence of C major. But as with every door that she unlocks, there follows a shudder, a strange, angular scale, couched in the same sound-world as the clashing semitone that represents the blood covering everything in sight.

Once more, Bluebeard coolly thanks Judith for bringing daylight into the castle, but when, inevitably, she unlocks the last door of his soul, following her forebears into that final room, the music returns to Bluebeard’s dark, modal sound-world. All light is extinguished, and we are taken back to the primordial “Once upon a time” that is, thanks to Bartók’s psychologically acute music, the clarion call of eternity.

— Gavin Plumley

Gavin Plumley, commissioning editor of English-language program notes for the Salzburg Festival, specializes in the music and culture of Central Europe. He appears frequently on the BBC and has written for publications around the world.

Meet the Cast

Kyle Albertson

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Bass-Baritone

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Mr. Albertson made his European début at Opera Köln in Germany as Frank Murrant in Street Scene and will return to Europe in 2022 to perform the title role in Der fliegende Holländer and Wotan in Loriot’s Der Ring an einem Abend for Opera Graz. In addition, he will return to the Metropolitan as Angelotti in Tosca.

He first joined The Metropolitan Opera roster for Don Giovanni and returned for five consecutive seasons in their productions of Le nozze di Figaro, Die Zauberflöte, Dialogues des carmélites, The Merry Widow, and Manon. 2020 and 2021 Metropolitan Opera engagements were to include covering the roles of the Dutchman in Der fliegende Holländer, Claggart in Billy Budd, and Kurwenal in Tristan und Isolde. He recently stepped back onto the stage as Scarpia in Tosca for the Phoenicia Festival and performed Wotan in Das Rheingold for Opera Santa Barbara and Virginia Opera.

Jennifer Johnson Cano

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A naturally gifted singer noted for her commanding stage presence and profound artistry, Jennifer Johnson Cano has garnered critical acclaim for committed performances of both new and standard repertoire. For her performance as Offred in Poul Ruders’s The Handmaid’s Tale she was lauded as “towering…restless, powerful, profound, she is as formidable as this astonishingly demanding role deserves” (New York Times). With more than 100 performances on the stage at The Metropolitan Opera, her most recent roles have included Nicklausse, Emilia, Hansel and Meg Page.

Highlights this season include the premiere of Kevin Puts’s The Hours with the Philadelphia Orchestra, Beethoven 9 with the Chicago and San Francisco Symphonies, and the New York premiere of Marc Neikrug’s A Song By Mahler at CMS Lincoln Center. She performs Poulenc’s Dialogues of the Carmelites (Mother Marie) with Houston Grand Opera; the world premiere of Gregory Spear’s Castor and Patience (Celeste) with Cincinnati Opera; and Bartok’s Bluebeard’s Castle (Judith) with Roanoke Opera.

Meet the Team

Steven White

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Conductor, Stage Director & Scenic Designer

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Praised by Opera News as a conductor who “squeezes every drop of excitement and pathos from the score,” Steven White is one of North America’s premiere operatic and symphonic conductors. He made his acclaimed Metropolitan Opera debut in 2010, conducting performances of La traviata starring Angela Gheorghiu. Since then he has conducted a number of Metropolitan Opera performances of La traviata, with such stars as Natalie Dessay, Hei-Kyung Hong, Plácido Domingo, Thomas Hampson, Dmitri Hvorostovksy and Matthew Polenzani. In the past several seasons he has returned to the Met to participate in critically fêted productions of Don Carlo, Billy Budd, The Rake’s Progress and Elektra.

With a vibrant repertoire of over sixty-five titles, Maestro White’s extensive operatic engagements have included performances with New York City Opera, L’Opera de Montréal, Vancouver Opera, Opera Colorado, Pittsburgh Opera, Michigan Opera Theater, Baltimore Opera, New Orleans Opera, and many others. In recent seasons he has conducted Rigoletto with San Diego Opera, Otello and La traviata with Austin Opera, La traviata with Utah Opera, and a world premiere staged production of a brand-new Bärenreiter edition of Gounod’s Faust with Opera Omaha.

In the 2021-2022 season, he returns to the Metropolitan Opera for their production of Tosca, which he also conducts for Utah Opera. He continues his close collaboration with Opera Omaha, conducting Eugene Onegin, joins Peabody Opera Theatre as guest conductor for Dominick Argento’s Postcard from Morocco, and returns to Opera Roanoke for Bluebeard’s Castle in the fall and Verdi’s Requiem in the spring.

Tláloc López-Watermann

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Tláloc López-Watermann is the founder of Light Conversations, LLC, a lighting and video design company based in New York City. Tlaloc regularly collaborates with stage directors Crystal Manich, Copeland Woodruff, Dean Anthony, JJ Hudson, and James Marvel. He has also designed for directors Ned Canty, Timothy Nelson, Tomer Zvulun, Andrew Eggert, Beth Greenberg, Corinne Hayes, and Sarah Meyers.

Tlaloc is fluent in Spanish and German and spent a season working at the Deutsche Oper Berlin. Tlaloc has also worked regularly for The Seattle Opera, North Carolina Opera, Opera Louisiane, Toledo Opera, Utah Festival Opera, Todi Music Festival, Opera Roanoke, Opera Naples, and Shreveport Opera. In 2013, Tlaloc was chosen as the festival lighting designer for Lorin Maazel’s prestigious Castleton Festival in Virginia and has been lighting designer in residence for the Janiec Opera Company in Brevard, North Carolina.

In 2016, Tlaloc made company debuts with Amarillo Opera (Le Nozze di Figaro); Opera Grand Rapids (Gluck's Orphee); and Pittsburgh Opera (Ricardo Primo). In 2017, Tlaloc made debuts with Lawrence University (Hydrogen Jukebox), Opera Columbus, and Opera on the James. In addition to his work in opera, Tlaloc has worked with the Ontological Hysterical Company in New York City, In Strange Company in Albuquerque, A Host of People in Detroit, and The Arena Stage in Washington, DC, where he was the Allen Lee Hughes Lighting Fellow. He holds a BFA in Performance Production from Cornish College of the Arts, and an MFA in Design from NYU / Tisch.

Joey Neighbors

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Joey has been in the theatre all his life. He has worked on countless productions all over the Southeast and Northeast United States. He has his BFA from the University of North Carolina School of the Arts. He has been the resident builder for Opera Roanoke for the past six seasons. He has worked with Opera Roanoke on countless productions on and off since 1986. Along with his work with Opera Roanoke he also works with Roanoke Ballet Theatre, Southwest Virginia Ballet, Roanoke Children’s Theatre, Off the Rails Theatre in Roanoke, Opera on the James in Lynchburg, and Annapolis Opera in AnnapolisMD. He has owned his own business for 18 years, Neighbors Handyman & Custom Carpentry and Star City Sets, doing small remodeling/repair jobs, tile work, and custom built-in’s and Sets for Opera and Theatre Companies. His joy in life is his family.

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John Lipe, Stage Manager, is a native of Carbondale, Illinois. He has worked for opera companies across the country, such as the Opera Company of Philadelphia, New Orleans Opera, Opera Columbus, Boston Early Music Festival, Opera Memphis, Opera Roanoke, Opera Southwest, Tampa Opera, Fargo-Moorhead Opera, Toledo Opera, Opera Nevada, and Utah Festival Opera.

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Stanley Tucci Makes London Stage Directing Debut This Summer with SPRINGWOOD

Emily Wyrwa

December 18, 2025

Stanley Tucci alert! The iconic actor, author, and screen director will make his London stage directing debut with the world premier of Tony Award-winning playwright Richard Nelson’s new play Springwood. The play will run at Hampstead Theatre’s Mainstage from June 19 to July 25, 2026.

‍Springwood was originally commissioned by Colin Callender and is produced at the Hampstead Theatre by arrangement with his company Playground.

The play tells the story of the first ever visit of a British monarch to the United States in 1939 between King George VI and President Roosevelt. A weekend at a country house. The fate of nations hangs in the balance; King George VI’s single opportunity to convince President Roosevelt to support his country in impending war is seemingly dependent on whether he and his wife can navigate a public picnic with the decorum and dignity expected of royalty. Can the "special relationship" survive a menu of hot dogs and beer?

“I am thrilled to be able to bring Richard Nelson’s poignant play to the stage. It is a nuanced, touching and very timely piece of writing,” director Tucci said in a statement.

Nelson said in a statement that he had been working with Callender for years to find the right home for Springwood, and is excited to bring it to the intimate Hampstead Theatre.

Springwood runs at the Hampstead Theatre’s Mainstage in North West London from June 19 to July 25, 2026. For tickets and more information, visit here.

BEACHES Comes To Broadway Starring Jessica Vosk and Kelli Barrett

Emily Wyrwa

December 18, 2025

This Broadway opening is the “wind beneath our wings!” Jessica Vosk and Kelli Barrett will star in Beaches, A New Musical at the Majestic Theatre for a limited New York engagement to launch its multi-city National Tour. Previews begin March 27, with official opening set for April 22. The musical will run through Sept. 6.

Beaches, based on the New York Times bestseller that became a blockbuster film, tells the story of Cee Cee and Bertie, who meet as children and become fast friends. Their relationship is oil and water; as they transition from pen-pals to roommates and romantic rivals, their friendship perseveres through the most tragic trials.

The new musical features a score by Grammy Award-winning legend Mike Stoller, lyrics by Iris Rainer Dart, and a book by Iris Rainer Dart & Thom Thomas. The musical was developed in collaboration with David Austin. It is co-directed by Lonny Price and Matt Cowart. Vosk will play Cee Cee and Barrett will play Bertie.

The musical will be choreographed by Jennifer Rias, with orchestrations by Tony Award winner Charlie Rosen, scenic design by James Noone, costume design by Tracy Christensen, lighting design by Tony Award winner Ken Billington, sound design by Tony Award winner Kai Harada, projection design by David Bengali, and wig, hair & make-up design by J. Jared Janas.

Casting is by The TRC (Tara Rubin Casting) Company, Peter Van Dam, CSA, and Joseph Thalken serves as Music Supervisor. The Production Stage Manager is Thomas Recktenwald and Alchemy Production Group serves as General Manager.

Beaches will run at the Majestic Theatre on West 44th Street in New York City from March 27 to Sept. 6, 2026. Tickets go on sale in January. For tickets and more information, visit here.

Chloe Tucker Caine Is Taking New York By Storm

Kobi Kassal

December 18, 2025

Many folks who start their careers on the national tour of Mamma Mia! end up working all over Broadway. And then you have Chloe Tucker Caine who is selling multi-million dollar homes up and down that very street.

Since pivoting to the world of luxury real estate, Chloe has become a breakout star of the hit Netflix series Owning Manhattan. Following Ryan Serhant’s team, season two just dropped and boy is it a great watch.

I recently caught up with Chloe to discuss bringing her love of Broadway to this season, Dancing With The Stars, and of course Legally Blonde: The Search For Elle Woods. Our conversation has been edited for clarity and length.

Theatrely: So how's it going? Season Two is now out.

It's going great. The show came out and I was terrified because you never know what's actually going to make it on air. And the response has been really incredible. It's really the first time I put myself out there when it comes to performing, especially in the real estate world of it all, so it was nerve racking, but the response has been great. I've been getting a lot of messages, especially about the audition scene and how it touched a lot of people and people really connected to it. So it's been a joy.

So I was doing a deep dive on you.

Oh boy.

And I was reading how you went to the Boston Conservatory…

I was actually only there for four months because I went and then a lot of people don't know this, but I was on that show about becoming the next Elle Woods on MTV.

Oh trust me, we know. Let’s jump into that.

Yeah. So I literally went to an open call for that TV show with all my friends from Boston and they were like, "okay, you made the top 10. You're going to be moving into this house." And I was like, great, I'm leaving school to be a big Broadway star, like see you never. And then got kicked off on the very first episode, scene one beat one. I was like, "I can't go back to school, this is horrifying!" So I went to LA, I went home.

How did that show prepare you for reality TV now?

God, that's a good question. I mean, that show, I was so young and it was such a gut punch and I literally became a recluse in LA. I couldn't leave, I couldn't leave the house, I couldn't be seen. That show kind of changed the course of my life because after being in LA, because I left school, I was doing everything but performing for a beat. And then I said, "wait a minute, what are you doing? You know, you want to perform, go perform." So I was like, "I'm going to go to an open call." The first open call I went to was for Sophie in Mamma Mia! and then booked the role and was off for two years on tour.

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Have you seen it since it's been back on Broadway.

I'm actually going on Saturday. We're taking my little cousin and I'm so excited.

Talk to me about that touring experience and going out on the road. And also, we have to know, who was your Donna?

Kaye Tuckerman. She's incredible. The whole experience was incredible. I learned so much about myself. And also, you know, that was my college experience. It was on the road. It was the years I should have been in school, but I really got a lot of hands on training. It also, I will say, messed me up a bit mentally because I booked it so fast. So when I got to New York, I was like, "hello, I'm here. Where's the parade? Where are the roles?" It definitely took me a beat to really understand how theatre works in New York.

So you finished the tour and you moved straight to New York…

You know, it's funny: I didn't realize it at the time, but I was actually doing really well. I had a huge agent and I was always getting callbacks. I was in the room. I was also in the conversations. But I think because I was so young and I didn't really understand the business of the business, to me I was like, "well I'm not making it here. I'm not good enough." And so I really got in my own head. And I kind of have this joke with my mom that the truth is no one told me I wasn't good enough but me. I was really hard on myself. I really, really struggled mentally with the industry. And I hate to say it, but I essentially ended up just giving up on myself and it's sad when I really think about that little girl in her twenties who thought she couldn't do it, but really she was doing great. Listen, it led me to here and now I'm in real estate and now we're back to the performing of it all. But you know, life, what can I tell you?

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So was there always that passion for real estate there?

I had no passion for real estate. It was never on my bingo card. I've had people in the past be like, you should go into real estate, and I'm like, that's embarrassing. Absolutely not, over my dead body. But in between theatre gigs, I was bartending, and I was just such a bad bartender, I kept getting fired. So then I was like, "okay, how can I make money?" So I started Airbnb-ing my apartment in Midtown in Hell's Kitchen. And I was doing great, like I was booked and busy. I was running this little business and then it started getting really illegal in New York. And my landlord was like, "I see what you're doing, you better pack it up." My boyfriend, my now husband, at the time was like "why don't you just go get your real estate license? It's like basically what you've been doing, but legal." And I was like I guess that's a good idea. I mean, why not? It's a two week course. So I got my license and I was like, wait, I'm really good at this. Like, I could kill this. Like, screw theater, screw Broadway. I'm going to be the biggest real estate star you've ever seen. I think I did like 150 rentals in my first year. And from there, you know, I always have had this itch to perform and be on camera. And so I started stalking Ryan Serhan, as you do, as after watching Million Dollar Listing. And I said to myself, I could do that. So I started copying the way he made his YouTube videos and I kind of told myself, when I get to 10 videos, I'm going to reach out to Ryan Serhan and I'm gonna go work for him. But I actually got to six videos and someone from his office called me and that's how it all happened.

Tell me about starting the show last season, what was going through your head at the time.

I was one of the first people to join Ryan's new company, and even from the very beginning, there was always this kind of rumbling that he wanted to do his own real estate show. I can't remember how it happened, but I was always in the mix for this. I always kind of knew that this is something we were going to do and that I was going to be a part of it. Maybe it was just me being delusional, being like, "I'm going to be on his show." But in my memory, I was always in the mix. But eventually, they had a big casting team come in and we all had to do a casting audition and then it ended up happening. I was very excited. I always was like, put a camera on me. I'm ready.

I love it. So then after season one aired and it came out, how would you say your life changed?

I think I was just definitely a lot more known. I don't know that anything changed drastically, but it definitely gave me a bigger platform to go out and start creating stuff, which then did lead to, you know, the musical series I started, Chloe in Manhattan, the musicals series. But it definitely just opened up the possibilities of what I could do.

Why was creating this series so important to you?

I was focusing on real estate, but secretly was still singing, dancing and acting. I was renting rehearsal spaces at Ripley-Grier and singing in between listing appointments, so it was always on my heart and my conscious, but it was not something I was putting out into the world and out of the blue. In the same week I had Michael McCrary, who I went to BoCo with, reached out to me, who is now a huge director choreographer. He said, "hey, I've really been thinking about you. I really think you need to start creating stuff again. What should we make?" Literally within three days, I had Michael Farrar reach out, who was my musical director on an Off-Broadway show I did called Death of the Moon. It was a one woman show. And he kind of had the same sentiment of you've been so on my mind. Why aren't you singing? Why aren't your performing? Like, let's figure out what you wanna do. And I was like, this is Kismet. Not only is it both of them reaching out to me on the same week, they're both Michael. I was, like, the world is trying to tell me to do something. I always knew I wanted to make a version of The Wizard and I, but turned it into Ryan Serhant and I would sing it to myself, walking into the office in SoHo. And I know what I wanna make. And they just happened to be the only two people in the universe that I think could take exactly what it was in my brain and turn it into a reality.

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So now we are at Season Two. Talk to me about what you wanted with this season. Just seeing you in Open Jar Studios was everything…

I really went into season two, not really sure where my storyline was going to go, but I knew that I was coming into it as a new mom. And for me, it was such a different version of myself, especially than the one you saw on season one, that I wanted to show the world what it had been like for me trying to balance both motherhood and real estate. And it really switched something in me because I thought you only had to be one thing. I thought, going back to theatre, I can't do theatre, I can only do real estate. Being a mom really showed me that you can be a multi-dimensional human. You can be more than one thing and I just wanted to, I didn't know that we were gonna go down this path of theatre, but I just knew that I wanted to say yes to everything and go into this season a lot more open that I may have been last season.

What have you been seeing lately around town that you've been loving?

I love Death Becomes Her. I thought it was one of the funniest things I've seen in like forever. Dying to see Chess. That is the next on our list of things to see. And then Mamma Mia, which I'm so excited to see.

If you could jump into any show on Broadway right now, what do you want to do?

Ooh, I have two. I would love to do Chicago, but I want to do Velma. I want do a Velma stunt cast, and I'd love to do a Satine stunt cast in Moulin Rouge. Like, let me sing Firework, please, I'm ready.

I see you love Dancing With The Stars. I think let's start the campaign now. Who do you want your pro to be?

Obviously Val. I mean, I just think he's like such a winning ticket. He's so good. I'm ready. Sign me up. I have my dancing shoes ready.

If Ryan was going to be in a Broadway show, what do you think, where should he be?

I've already thought about this a million times and it is so clear to me. It’s Billy Flynn. He needs to play that role like he would be phenomenal.

You are at a really exciting moment in your career right now. When you think back in twenty, thirty years to now, what do you want to remember?

I want to remember that I didn't give up on myself like I got out of my own way finally, Chloe got out of her own way. I think I feel like that's really been my theme up to this point is, like I said before, the only person that was telling me I wasn't good enough was me. I've always found a way to psych myself out of things that I don't think I deserve. And now that I have this kid, I have this daughter, I don't ever want her to look at her mom and say, "oh, God, my mom had so much talent. She had so much potential, but she couldn't get out of her own damn way." So I'm in my era of that.

I recently saw Brittany Bateman from Real Housewives 54 Below.

How was it?

It was so iconic. I couldn't believe what I was watching. But when are you gonna come do a cabaret here in New York?

You know, you're not the first person to ask me that, so we are working on it. I will be doing a solo show, dates, TBD, but it's coming.

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EXCLUSIVE: Watch A Clip From THEATER CAMP Starring Ben Platt, Noah Galvin, and Molly Gordon

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READ: An Excerpt From Sean Hayes Debut YA Novel TIME OUT

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"Reframing the COVID-19 Pandemic Through a Stage Manager’s Eyes"

EXCLUSIVE: Watch A Clip From THEATER CAMP Starring Ben Platt, Noah Galvin, and Molly Gordon

By: Maia Penzer

14 July 2023

Finally, summer has arrived, which can only mean one thing: it's time for camp! Theater Camp, that is. Theatrely has a sneak peak at the new film which hits select theaters today.

The new original comedy starring Tony Award winner Ben Platt and Molly Gordon we guarantee will have you laughing non-stop. The AdirondACTS, a run-down theater camp in upstate New York, is attended by theater-loving children who must work hard to keep their beloved theater camp afloat after the founder, Joan, falls into a coma.

The film stars Ben Platt and Molly Gordon as Amos Klobuchar and Rebecca-Diane, respectively, as well as Noah Galvin as Glenn Wintrop, Jimmy Tatro as Troy Rubinsky, Patti Harrison as Caroline Krauss, Nathan Lee Graham as Clive DeWitt, Ayo Edebiri as Janet Walch, Owen Thiele as Gigi Charbonier, Caroline Aaron as Rita Cohen, Amy Sedaris as Joan Rubinsky, and Alan Kim as Alan Park.

Theater Camp was directed by Molly Gordon and Nick Lieberman and written by Noah Galvin, Molly Gordon, Nick Lieberman & Ben Platt. Music is by James McAlister and Mark Sonnenblick. On January 21, 2023, Theater Camp had its world premiere at the Sundance Film Festival.

You can purchase tickets to the new film from our friends at Hollywood.com here.

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READ: An Excerpt From Sean Hayes Debut YA Novel TIME OUT

By: Kobi Kassal

29 May 2023

Actor Sean Hayes is what we in the biz call booked and blessed. On top of his Tony-nominated performance as Oscar Levant in Good Night, Oscar, Hayes has partnered with Todd Milliner and Carlyn Greenwald for the release of their new YA novel Time Out.

Heralded by many as Heartstopper meets Friday Night Lights, Time Out follows hometown basketball hero Barclay Elliot who decides to use a pep rally to come out to his school. When the response is not what he had hoped and the hostility continually growing, he turns to his best friend Amy who brings him to her voting rights group at school. There he finds Christopher and… you will just have to grab a copy and find out what happens next. Luckily for you, Time Out hits shelves on May 30 and to hold you over until then we have a special except from the book just for Theatrely:

The good thing about not being on the team the past two weeks has been that I’ve had time to start picking up shifts again at Beau’s diner and save up a little for college now that my scholarship dreams are over.

The bad part is it’s the perfect place to see how my actions at the pep rally have rotted the townspeople’s brains too.

During Amy’s very intense musical theater phase in middle school, her parents took her to New York City. And of course she came back home buzzing about Broadway and how beautiful the piss smell was and everything artsy people say about New York. But she also vividly described some diner she waited three hours to get into where the waitstaff would all perform songs for the customers as a way to practice for auditions. The regulars would have favorite staff members and stan them the way Amy stans all her emo musicians.

Working at Beau’s used to feel kind of like that, like I was part of a performance team I didn’t know I signed up for. The job started off pretty basic over the summer—I wanted to save up for basketball supplies, and Amy worked there and said it was boring ever since her e-girl coworker friend graduated. But I couldn’t get through a single lunch rush table without someone calling me over and wanting the inside scoop on the Wildcats and how we were preparing for the home opener, wanting me to sign an article in the paper or take a photo. Every friendly face just made the resolve grow inside me. People love and support the Wildcats; they would do the same for me.

Yeah, right.

Now just like school, customers have been glaring at me, making comments about letting everyone down, about being selfish, about my actions being “unfortunate,” and the tips have been essentially nonexistent. The Wildcats have been obliterated in half their games since I quit, carrying a 2–3 record when last year we were 5–0, and the comments make my feet feel like lead weights I have to drag through every shift.

Today is no different. It’s Thursday, the usual dinner rush at Beau’s, and I try to stay focused on the stress of balancing seven milkshakes on one platter. A group of regulars, some construction workers, keep loudly wondering why I won’t come back to the team while I refuse proper eye contact.

One of the guys looks up at me as I drop the bill off. “So, what’s the deal? Does being queer keep ya from physically being able to play?”

They all snicker as they pull out crumpled bills. I stuff my hands into my pockets, holding my tongue.

When they leave, I hold my breath as I take their bill.

Sure enough, no tip.

“What the fuck?” I mutter under my breath.

“Language,” Amy says as she glides past me, imitating the way Richard says it to her every shift, and adds, “even though they are dicks.” At least Amy’s been ranting about it every free chance she gets. It was one thing when the student body was being shitty about me leaving the team, but the town being like this is even more infuriating. She doesn’t understand how these fully grown adults can really care that much about high school basketball and thinks they need a new fucking hobby. I finally agree with her.

[She’s wearing red lipstick to go with her raccoon-adjacent eyeliner as she rushes off to prepare milkshakes for a pack of middle schoolers. I catch her mid–death glare as all three of the kids rotate in their chairs, making the old things squeal. My anger fades a bit as I can’t help but chuckle; Amy’s pissed-off reaction to Richard telling her to smile more was said raccoon makeup, and her tolerance for buffoonery has been at a negative five to start and declining fast.

I rest my arms on the counter and try not to look as exhausted as I feel.

“Excuse me!” an old lady screeches, making me jump.

Amy covers up a laugh as I head to the old lady and her husband’s table. They’ve got finished plates, full waters. Not sure what the problem is. Or I do, which is worse.

“Yes?” I say trying to suppress my annoyance.

“Could you be bothered to serve us?”

Only five more hours on shift. I have a break in three minutes. I’ll be with Devin at Georgia Tech tomorrow. “I’m sorry, ma’am,” I say, so careful to keep my words even, but I can feel my hands balling into fists. “What would you—?”

And suddenly Amy swoops in, dropping two mugs of coffee down. “Sorry about that, you two,” she says, her voice extra high. “The machine was conking out on us, but it’s fine now.”

Once the coffee is down, she hooks onto a chunk of my shirt, steering us back to the bar.

“Thanks,” I mutter, embarrassed to have forgotten something so basic. Again.

“Just keep it together, man,” she says. “Maybe you’d be better off with that creepy night shift where all the truckers and serial killers come in.”

Honestly, at least the serial killers wouldn’t care about my jump shot.

It’s a few minutes before my break, but clearly I need it. “I’ll be in the back room.”

Right before I can head that way though, someone straight-up bursts into the diner and rushes over to me at the bar. It’s a middle-aged dad type, sunburned skin, beer belly, and stained T-shirt.

“Pickup order?” I ask.

“You should be ashamed,” he sneers at me. He has a really strong Southern accent, but it’s not Georgian. “Think you’re so high and mighty, that nothing’ll ever affect you? My kid’ll never go to college because of you and your lifestyle. Fuck you, Barclay Ell—”

And before this man can finish cursing my name, Pat of all people runs in, wide-eyed in humiliation. “Jesus, Dad, please don’t—”

I pin my gaze on him, remembering how he cowered on the bench as Ostrowski went off, how he didn’t even try to approach me. “Don’t even bother,” I snap.

I shove a to-go bag into his dad’s arms, relieved it’s prepaid, and storm off to the break room.]

Amy finds me head in my arms a minute or two later. I look up, rubbing my eyes. “Please spare me the pity.”

She snorts and hands me a milkshake. Mint chocolate chip. “Wouldn’t dare.” She takes a seat and rolls her shoulders and neck, cracks sounding through the tiny room. “Do you want a distraction or a shoulder to cry on?”

For more information, and to purchase your copy of Time Out, click here.

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Reframing the COVID-19 Pandemic Through a Stage Manager’s Eyes

By: Kaitlyn Riggio

5 July 2022

When the COVID-19 pandemic was declared a national emergency in the United States in March 2020, Broadway veteran stage manager Richard Hester watched the nation’s anxiety unfold on social media.

“No one knew what the virus was going to do,” Hester said. Some people were “losing their minds in abject terror, and then there were some people who were completely denying the whole thing.”

For Hester, the reaction at times felt like something out of a movie. “It was like the Black Plague,” he said. “Some people thought it was going to be like that Monty Python sketch: ‘bring out your dead, bring out your dead.’”

While Hester was also unsure about how the virus would unfold, he felt that his “job as a stage manager is to naturally defuse drama.” Hester brought this approach off the stage and onto social media in the wake of the pandemic.

“I just sort of synthesized everything that was happening into what I thought was a manageable bite, so people could get it,” Hester said. This became a daily exercise for a year. Over two years after the beginning of the pandemic, Hester’s accounts are compiled in the book, Hold Please: Stage Managing A Pandemic. Released earlier this year, the book documents the events of the past two years, filtering national events and day-to-day occurrences through a stage manager’s eyes and storytelling.

When Hester started this project, he had no intention of writing a book. He was originally writing every day because there was nothing else to do. “I am somebody who needs a job or needs a structure,” Hester said.

Surprised to find that people began expecting his daily posts, he began publishing his daily writing to his followers through a Substack newsletter. As his following grew, Hester had to get used to writing for an audience. “I started second guessing myself a lot of the time,” Hester said. “It just sort of put a weird pressure on it.”

Hester said he got especially nervous before publishing posts in which he wrote about more personal topics. For example, some of his posts focused on his experiences growing up in South Africa while others centered on potentially divisive topics, such as the 2020 election and the January 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.

Despite some of this discomfort, Hester’s more personal posts were often the ones that got the most response. The experience offered him a writing lesson. “I stopped worrying about the audience and just wrote what I wanted to write about,” Hester said. “All of that pressure that I think as artists we put on ourselves, I got used to it.”

One of Hester’s favorite anecdotes featured in the book centers on a woman who dances in Washington Square Park on a canvas, rain or shine. He said he was “mesmerized by her,” which inspired him to write about her. “It was literally snowing and she was barefoot on her canvas dancing, and that seems to me just a spectacularly beautiful metaphor for everything that we all try and do, and she was living that to the fullest.”

During the creation of Hold Please, Hester got the unique opportunity to reflect in-depth on the first year of the pandemic by looking back at his accounts. He realized that post people would not remember the details of the lockdown; people would “remember it as a gap in their lives, but they weren’t going to remember it beat by beat.”

“Reliving each of those moments made me realize just how full a year it was, even though none of us were doing anything outside,” he adds. “We were all on our couches.” Readers will use the book as a way to relive moments of the pandemic’s first year “without having to wallow in the misery of it,” he hopes.

“I talk about the misery of it, but that’s not the focus of what I wrote... it was about hope and moving forward,” Hester said. “In these times when everything is so difficult, we will figure out a way to get through and we will move forward.”

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